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D.B.
Hi Ike, how are you doing?
I.I.
I am doing well, thank you.
D.B.
Given that their Iraqis were just
handed their sovereignty, I would like to
revisit the interview that you gave on 11-17-02,
with regards to what you thought was going
to happen with Iraq, and its impact on
oil, gold, and defense stocks. (see http://marketviews.tv/freeservices/BestoftheBest/021116.htm
)
I.I.
I guess we can do that.
D.B.
With regards to oil stocks you had said:
"..I would imagine that initially
there would be a spike up, but eventually
-if everything goes as planned- the price
of oil will come down for 2-3
months, and then it will rise back up to
the $36-$38 level. Consequently, investors
need to focus on the prospects for
oil companies. My
top pick would be OXY, I also like
RD, CVX, XOM, SII, BJS, TOT and couple of
second tier companies such DNR and COP."
Do you still like those companies?
| Company |
Price |
Price |
Gain/ |
Percent |
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11/17/2002 |
7/2/2004 |
Loss |
G/L |
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| OXY |
27.2 |
48.29 |
21.09 |
77.54% |
| RD |
44.38 |
51.72 |
7.34 |
16.54% |
| CVX |
67.55 |
93.25 |
25.7 |
38.05% |
| XOM |
34.55 |
44.22 |
9.67 |
27.99% |
| SII |
31.54 |
56.76 |
25.22 |
79.96% |
| BJS |
30.85 |
46 |
15.15 |
49.11% |
| TOT |
70.4 |
96.44 |
26.04 |
36.99% |
| DNR |
10 |
21.4 |
11.4 |
114.00% |
| COP |
48.75 |
76.19 |
27.44 |
56.29% |
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|
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|
|
|
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AVG. |
55.16% |
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I.I.
I do because I believe -as I did then-
that oil prices -at best- will remain on
average above $36.00 per barrel. At worst,
who knows? If you recall, in the same
interview I emphasized the point that the
Saudi Arabian regime was going to come
under extreme stress, I opined that the days of the
royal family were numbered, and its fate
would resemble the fate of the late Shah
of Iran. The recent terrorist attacks in
Saudi Arabia, are just the tip of the
iceberg. If Saudi oil production is
temporarily curtailed, or, lost all
together, who knows how high oil prices
will spike up. Having said that, I would
also add that I would wait for another
pullback to buy any of the above stocks.
They have appreciated considerably, so, I
wouldn't jump on them right now.
D.B.
How about defense stocks? At the time when
I asked you what companies you liked,
you said: "NOC, ATK, TDY,
RTN, AIR, ARXX, AVL, BA, CW, GD.
I really like TOD, EASI and UDI."
| Company |
Price |
Price |
Gain/ |
Percent |
|
11/17/2002 |
7/2/2004 |
Loss |
G/L |
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|
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|
| AIR |
4.7 |
10.85 |
6.15 |
130.85% |
| ARXX |
8.03 |
13.94 |
5.91 |
73.60% |
| ATK |
56.58 |
62.64 |
6.06 |
10.71% |
| AVL |
8.65 |
19.01 |
10.36 |
119.77% |
| BA |
31.5 |
49.52 |
18.02 |
57.21% |
| CW |
33.35 |
56.1 |
22.75 |
68.22% |
| EASI |
22.31 |
57.1 |
34.79 |
155.94% |
| GD |
78.86 |
97.56 |
18.7 |
23.71% |
| NOC |
45.96 |
53.25 |
7.29 |
15.86% |
| RTN |
28.05 |
34.72 |
6.67 |
23.78% |
| TDY |
14.96 |
20.15 |
5.19 |
34.69% |
| TOD |
15.1 |
17.5 |
2.4 |
15.89% |
| UDI |
22.79 |
34.66 |
11.87 |
52.08% |
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AVG. |
60.18% |
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I.I.
I would leave defense stocks alone for
right now, even if they pulled back. They
have appreciated quite a bit, and given
the political uncertainty due to the
elections and a possible change in
Administration, I wouldn't want to take a
chance.
D.B.
Not even BA? Boeing is not just a defense
company, it's a well diversified aerospace
company. Barron's had a very nice
assessment of the company in this week's
edition.
I.I.
Wonderful, now that I know Barron's likes
BA, I can die happy! They should have
liked it when it had a P/E of 10,
now it's kind of late, the bird has flown.
Moreover, I do expect a global economic
slowdown in the next 12-18 months
which will hurt Boeing's commercial
business, and its stock. When that
happens, then it will be a time to
reconsider.
D.B.
And how about gold and gold stocks? At the
time you liked MDG, NEM, GLG, GG, and ASA.
I.I.
As you know I turned bearish on gold and
gold stocks back in January of this
year. In fact we sold all of our
gold holdings, and we bought puts in the
XAU, the June 90s. We made almost
100% return on those puts, and I
have tried to re-enter a small pilot
position in the July 90 puts. At the
moment, I am a neutral. My favorite
measure for entering intermediate term
positions is the ratio between gold and
the XAU, right now it is in NEUTRAL
territory.
If
I look at gold prices in isolation, I
would have to say that my conclusion is
that gold is going lower. However, when I
look at the profound weakness in the
dollar, I have a hard time seeing how gold
and gold stocks can go much lower from
here. In any case, if I was buying for the
intermediate, or, long term, I wouldn't
buy unless that ratio got near 5.5. If I
was buying for trading purposes, maybe I
would nimble a little if gold could stay
above $400.00 per ounce. Whenever, I do
buy again for the intermediate to long
term, these are the stocks I would buy:
NEM, GLG, BGO, IAM, AAUK, and ASA.
D.B.
What is view with regards to the rest of
the market?
I.I.
Let's take a look at the charts.
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